Comments on: Spirits for sale http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/ Life, the Universe, & Everything Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:00:56 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Elizabeth Roemer http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/#comment-1079 Elizabeth Roemer Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:00:56 +0000 http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/#comment-1079 I have recently returned home after spending the past 15+ years in Europe (Germany and the UK). The Europeans have an intense fascination with our culture and groups of them conduct their own "PowWows" on the week-end where they dress up, sing, dance, etc. and pretend to be Native. The interest in Germany began when Karl May wrote several books (all fiction) about our people having never met a real Native. Although his books put us in a good light, they do not protray the real beliefs/culture. You will found "PowWows" in almost all European countries now ... Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, UK, Poland, and yes, even Russia. My Native brothers and sisters and I have spent years trying to educate the Europeans (not with performances, lectures, etc. Just good, sound, free advice) only to find ourselves being attacked by the goons from NAFPS. We stopped answering their intrusive questions because they seem to think a letter from a federally recognized tribe which states someone is 6th generation Creek means PODIA. We are also of the opinion no Native and no Nation needs to answer to NAFPS and we do not need their stamp of approval to be what we are. NAFPS is all about promoting Al Carroll, the phoney Apache. I've done his genealogy and he is, indeed, Mexican/Irish. Trisha Rose Jacobs , the phoney Cherokee, is hiding under the name Moma Porcupine. She, All and Annika are in this for the money. They are extremely vicious and have sent emails to the employer, family members, acquaintances and organizations when doing research on an individual. It is abundantly clear none of them have been raised in a Native community nor have they had much contact with real Natives. Al is even paying for a website on which he slanders and defames a Comanche he has a problem with. How sick is that? They need to be stopped before they hurt themselves. I have recently returned home after spending the past 15+ years in Europe (Germany and the UK). The Europeans have an intense fascination with our culture and groups of them conduct their own “PowWows” on the week-end where they dress up, sing, dance, etc. and pretend to be Native. The interest in Germany began when Karl May wrote several books (all fiction) about our people having never met a real Native. Although his books put us in a good light, they do not protray the real beliefs/culture. You will found “PowWows” in almost all European countries now … Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, UK, Poland, and yes, even Russia. My Native brothers and sisters and I have spent years trying to educate the Europeans (not with performances, lectures, etc. Just good, sound, free advice) only to find ourselves being attacked by the goons from NAFPS. We stopped answering their intrusive questions because they seem to think a letter from a federally recognized tribe which states someone is 6th generation Creek means PODIA. We are also of the opinion no Native and no Nation needs to answer to NAFPS and we do not need their stamp of approval to be what we are. NAFPS is all about promoting Al Carroll, the phoney Apache. I’ve done his genealogy and he is, indeed, Mexican/Irish. Trisha Rose Jacobs , the phoney Cherokee, is hiding under the name Moma Porcupine. She, All and Annika are in this for the money. They are extremely vicious and have sent emails to the employer, family members, acquaintances and organizations when doing research on an individual. It is abundantly clear none of them have been raised in a Native community nor have they had much contact with real Natives. Al is even paying for a website on which he slanders and defames a Comanche he has a problem with. How sick is that? They need to be stopped before they hurt themselves.

]]> By: Truth Seeker http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/#comment-1076 Truth Seeker Mon, 13 Apr 2009 08:30:39 +0000 http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/#comment-1076 The truth needs to come out and will. However, I am quite disturbed that Arvol Looking Horse and his wife, Paula Horne, traveled to Sweden - all expenses paid of course, to meet with this film maker. We have many talented native film makers here in the US and I think that native people should utilize the service of others native people, especially in making a film like this. They are all interested in making money and know that the Europeans especially love anything to do with Lakota Indians. Ever since they saw the movie Dances with Wolves, they have been nearly obsessive when it comes to the Lakota. I find it repulsive that this white woman from Sweden is actually sitting in judgment of native people in the US. But Al Carroll - a fraud of course, Tricia Jacobs - who has so many lawsuits filed against her she probably will never return to the US, for her fake and nasty website - Respect in Cherokee, finally took her website down, but left a nasty parting shot when she did. There is a website up about her, by many of the people who filed lawsuits against her - www.triciajacobs.com - these people are sick, vicious and hiding so much of their own fraud, that they go on the attack with others to deflect questions about themselves. They are a vicious group. Not one of them responds, behaves or reacts in a respectful manner to anyone, showing quite clearly that they not raised traditionally. Arvol Looking Horse should have never made the mistake of becoming involved with any of them. Why would the U of Texas want Al Carroll working as a professor for them? He has a terrible reputation in the US and he will never be able to prove he is Apache because he's not. The truth needs to come out and will. However, I am quite disturbed that Arvol Looking Horse and his wife, Paula Horne, traveled to Sweden – all expenses paid of course, to meet with this film maker. We have many talented native film makers here in the US and I think that native people should utilize the service of others native people, especially in making a film like this. They are all interested in making money and know that the Europeans especially love anything to do with Lakota Indians. Ever since they saw the movie Dances with Wolves, they have been nearly obsessive when it comes to the Lakota. I find it repulsive that this white woman from Sweden is actually sitting in judgment of native people in the US. But Al Carroll – a fraud of course, Tricia Jacobs – who has so many lawsuits filed against her she probably will never return to the US, for her fake and nasty website – Respect in Cherokee, finally took her website down, but left a nasty parting shot when she did. There is a website up about her, by many of the people who filed lawsuits against her – http://www.triciajacobs.com – these people are sick, vicious and hiding so much of their own fraud, that they go on the attack with others to deflect questions about themselves.

They are a vicious group. Not one of them responds, behaves or reacts in a respectful manner to anyone, showing quite clearly that they not raised traditionally. Arvol Looking Horse should have never made the mistake of becoming involved with any of them. Why would the U of Texas want Al Carroll working as a professor for them? He has a terrible reputation in the US and he will never be able to prove he is Apache because he’s not.

]]> By: Looking Back Woman http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/#comment-1075 Looking Back Woman Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:46:08 +0000 http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/#comment-1075 Han Kolas, Continuing information pertaining to this specific issue has now come to light. Where I opened the door to this with my Interview with John Lekay, many, many people have now come forward about what really happened during the Seige at Wounded Knee 1973, and by whom. Only now are the Tetuwan people themselves finding out what happen to their gift from Creator via White Buffalo Calf Pipe Woman. I am proud to say, with time I was able to show John Lekay my Heyoka Interview's 2006 validity, and it has been reposted on Heyoka since January 2009. There is even more corresponding information newly posted on lookingbackwoman.ca that shows clearly the Cannunpa Wakan was never passed to the Looking Horse family, nor any Bad Warriors or Elk Heads. Martha Bad Warrior stated before all assembled in Aug. 1936 recorded by Wilbur Riegert, that no one in her family was worthy to carry the Cannunpa Wakan because all of them were becoming Christianized. Corresponding photo on the lookingbackwoman.ca site shows Old Man Elk Head holding the Cannunpa I was passed by Frank Fools Crow in 1975, with a huge cross around his neck. This clearly shows how AIM used this situation, with ALH's assistance to control that which is Sacred for all of mankind until I opened the door to the truth....and it rushed through to attest what I said was true, and it is why I was attacked, and John Lekay also...for posting it. The finger pointers are the worst offenders, but the equalizer is when they get the letter from the legal team challenging their slander and libel. You have the truth before you, it is now what the people do with it...that will change this black road course these deceiptful people have taken so many down for the god almighty dollar. Have pity, but backbone, Mitakuye Oyasin April 8, 2009! Aho, LBW Han Kolas,
Continuing information pertaining to this specific issue
has now come to light.
Where I opened the door to this with my Interview with John Lekay, many, many people have now come forward about what really happened during the Seige at Wounded Knee 1973, and by whom.
Only now are the Tetuwan people themselves finding out what happen to
their gift from Creator via White Buffalo Calf Pipe Woman.
I am proud to say, with time I was able to show John Lekay
my Heyoka Interview’s 2006 validity, and it has been reposted on
Heyoka since January 2009.
There is even more corresponding information newly posted on lookingbackwoman.ca that shows clearly the Cannunpa Wakan was never passed to the Looking Horse family, nor any Bad Warriors or Elk Heads.
Martha Bad Warrior stated before all assembled in Aug. 1936 recorded by Wilbur Riegert, that no one in her family was worthy to carry the Cannunpa Wakan because all of them were becoming Christianized.
Corresponding photo on the lookingbackwoman.ca site shows Old Man Elk Head holding the Cannunpa I was passed by Frank Fools Crow in 1975, with a huge cross around his neck.
This clearly shows how AIM used this situation, with ALH’s assistance to control that which is Sacred for all of mankind until I opened the door to the truth….and it rushed through to attest what I said was true, and it is why I was attacked, and John Lekay also…for posting it.
The finger pointers are the worst offenders, but the equalizer is when they get the letter from the legal team challenging their slander and libel.
You have the truth before you, it is now what the people do with it…that will change this black road course these deceiptful people have taken so many down for the god almighty dollar.
Have pity, but backbone, Mitakuye Oyasin
April 8, 2009!
Aho,
LBW

]]> By: Looking Back Woman http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/#comment-1051 Looking Back Woman Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:02:33 +0000 http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/#comment-1051 Updates to www.lookingbackwoman.com have recently been added to substanciate my interview that was removed from Heyoka Magazine with John Lekay. Yes, it would be just a Lakota/Nakota/Dakota issue, if the Cannunpa Wakan's legacy remained among the Western Teton Sioux, however donations were solicited from the International Communities, and thus has become of interest to all where ALH has taken the WBCP Legacy outside his own people's territory. More updates will be forthcoming from personal interviews & recent correspondance to LBW.com. of eyewitness accounts pertaining to this new documentation/information. Also, view further new information at LelaWakan@msn.groups.com to view the Museum Notes of John L. Smith from 1964-1967, from his time with Lucy Looking Horse's relatives, from his field notes as a young anthro-student at Green Grass, SD. ALH's Great-grandmother, Martha Bad Warrior, (verified by the Elk Head family from Green Grass, SD in November 2007), was adopted by Old Man Elk Head....no blood relation, Martha was a Dakota. Please be directed to the disertation on the Historical Path of the White Buffalo Calf Pipe(s) on www.lookingbackwoman.com landing page for more information pertaining to this important issue. Once you read this new information, actual documented history, you will see why there has been so much contraversey, and cover-up around this important information coming to light. Read the Riegert pdf file on www.lookingbackwoman.com index page to see Martha Bad Warrior's interview with Riegert before her death in 1936, and Riegert's own words in 1973, as curator of the Wounded Knee Museum, during the Seige at Wounded Knee....it will be an eye-opener for you! I am ready to stand before anyone who wants to challenge the recorded history presented in this new information. I understand ALH recently used what he called the White Buffalo Calf Pipe, though there seems that there were few Lakota people present for this very important occasion for the Lakota People. In view of the Proclaimation by ALH, it seems ALH is no longer acknowledging his own Proclaimation, does this mean everyone not Lakota who sent him their Cannunpa Wakans, to adhere to his Proclaimation, will be having them returned? Why was it after the posting on www.lookingbackwoman of the disertation of the Historical Path of the Cannunpa Wakan(s), ALH now brings out a Cannunpa, but It is too Sacred to see, other than by dred-locked, cowboy hated, sports atired people? Mitakuye Oyasin, LBW Updates to http://www.lookingbackwoman.com have recently been added to substanciate my interview that was removed from Heyoka Magazine with John Lekay.
Yes, it would be just a Lakota/Nakota/Dakota issue, if the Cannunpa Wakan’s legacy remained among the Western Teton Sioux, however donations were solicited from the International Communities, and thus has become of interest to all where ALH has taken the WBCP Legacy outside his own people’s territory.
More updates will be forthcoming from personal interviews & recent correspondance to LBW.com. of eyewitness accounts pertaining to this new documentation/information.
Also, view further new information at LelaWakan@msn.groups.com to view the Museum Notes of John L. Smith from 1964-1967, from his time with Lucy Looking Horse’s relatives, from his field notes as a young anthro-student at Green Grass, SD.
ALH’s Great-grandmother, Martha Bad Warrior, (verified by the Elk Head family from Green Grass, SD in November 2007), was adopted by Old Man Elk Head….no blood relation, Martha was a Dakota.
Please be directed to the disertation on the Historical Path of the White Buffalo Calf Pipe(s) on http://www.lookingbackwoman.com landing page for more information pertaining to this important issue.
Once you read this new information, actual documented history, you will see why there has been so much contraversey, and cover-up around this important information coming to light.
Read the Riegert pdf file on http://www.lookingbackwoman.com index page to see Martha Bad Warrior’s interview with Riegert before her death in 1936, and Riegert’s own words in 1973, as curator of the Wounded Knee Museum, during the Seige at Wounded Knee….it will be an eye-opener for you!
I am ready to stand before anyone who wants to challenge the recorded history presented in this new information.
I understand ALH recently used what he called the White Buffalo Calf Pipe, though there seems that there were few Lakota people present for this very important occasion for the Lakota People.
In view of the Proclaimation by ALH, it seems ALH is no longer acknowledging his own Proclaimation, does this mean everyone not Lakota who sent him their Cannunpa Wakans, to adhere to his Proclaimation, will be having them returned?
Why was it after the posting on http://www.lookingbackwoman of the disertation of the Historical Path of the Cannunpa Wakan(s), ALH now brings out a Cannunpa, but It is too Sacred to see, other than by dred-locked, cowboy hated, sports atired people?
Mitakuye Oyasin,
LBW

]]> By: Sandra http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/#comment-1049 Sandra Fri, 11 Apr 2008 09:46:23 +0000 http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/#comment-1049 I agree that it is wrong to judge people by their colour or race. If I judge people at all it is by their behaviour. I think some of the postings on here are in defence of that. It is nasty to see one person with a huge following of cyber friends, try and destroy nice people. The reason they give is that non native Americans cannot embrace their traditions; unfortunately they don't see it as a compliment or someone with a genuine interest. I am not native American but on one occasion visited a pow wow in Denmark. I don't know the name of the organisers as it was a long time ago and I have no idea of their nationality. All I know is that it was great fun and educational. Now maybe some would say that it might have been flawed educationally and that the organisers were not qualified to teach. Perhaps, but what harm did it do? I came away feeling very warm towards all humanity and especially N As. It may not have been correct in every aspect but as I am neither N A or about to teach their ways it is of no consequence. Certainly not a reason for the character assassination that would have ensued had Newagefraud been in attendance. It would not have warranted to hatred that is perpetrated so often today. I just wish these people would see the bigger picture and realise all the hate eventually comes back to them I agree that it is wrong to judge people by their colour or race. If I judge people at all it is by their behaviour.

I think some of the postings on here are in defence of that. It is nasty to see one person with a huge following of cyber friends, try and destroy nice people.

The reason they give is that non native Americans cannot embrace their traditions; unfortunately they don’t see it as a compliment or someone with a genuine interest.

I am not native American but on one occasion visited a pow wow in Denmark. I don’t know the name of the organisers as it was a long time ago and I have no idea of their nationality. All I know is that it was great fun and educational.

Now maybe some would say that it might have been flawed educationally and that the organisers were not qualified to teach. Perhaps, but what harm did it do? I came away feeling very warm towards all humanity and especially N As. It may not have been correct in every aspect but as I am neither N A or about to teach their ways it is of no consequence.

Certainly not a reason for the character assassination that would have ensued had Newagefraud been in attendance. It would not have warranted to hatred that is perpetrated so often today.

I just wish these people would see the bigger picture and realise all the hate eventually comes back to them

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]]> By: Sandra http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/#comment-1039 Sandra Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:12:54 +0000 http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/#comment-1039 I think you are right that he is sick. He is certainly delusional. At a guess I would suggest there was something in his childhood that caused him deep shame. He is obsessed with Europeans and white people and just can't leave them alone. Even Native Americans are sick of him and he really gives them a bad press. He seems to be on a one man crusade to make all NAs look like whingeing idiots. Everyone loathes him. He is sooooooooooo moral about how people should behave too. Too bad he forgot about his own rules when he put out an ad looking for a wife swap. It is still out there on the net somewhere. Maybe it is time his college knew about his antics???? Yep, maybe the time has come. I think you are right that he is sick. He is certainly delusional. At a guess I would suggest there was something in his childhood that caused him deep shame. He is obsessed with Europeans and white people and just can’t leave them alone. Even Native Americans are sick of him and he really gives them a bad press. He seems to be on a one man crusade to make all NAs look like whingeing idiots. Everyone loathes him.

He is sooooooooooo moral about how people should behave too. Too bad he forgot about his own rules when he put out an ad looking for a wife swap. It is still out there on the net somewhere. Maybe it is time his college knew about his antics???? Yep, maybe the time has come.

]]> By: nativelove http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/#comment-1038 nativelove Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:12:48 +0000 http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/#comment-1038 Alton Carroll is a very sick man, passing for something he is not, his picture is everywhere on the internet. He use to call himself Educated Indio and sense has changed his name to Educated Indian. I guess he did not want to seem too Spanish, he will not discuss what he really is on his profile but tries to put your name out there and does not care whom he hurts. Alton Carroll is a very sick man, passing for something he is not, his picture is everywhere on the internet. He use to call himself Educated Indio and sense has changed his name to Educated Indian. I guess he did not want to seem too Spanish, he will not discuss what he really is on his profile but tries to put your name out there and does not care whom he hurts.

]]> By: Sandra http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/#comment-1037 Sandra Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:48:00 +0000 http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/#comment-1037 Alton Carrol is no more Indian than I am. I work as a genealogist and have tracked down his family as it was such an item for comment. No Apaches anywhere. Mexicans yes, Irish yes but Indians no. The guy lives in a fantasy world as does Barnaby McEwan, his cohort from Totnes in the UK. Now he is really nuts. Out of work dosser who sits on his computer all day, probably wearing his feathered headdress. He'll be telling us next that McEwan is a Lakota name and Carroll is an Apache name. They both need to get out more. Alton Carrol is no more Indian than I am. I work as a genealogist and have tracked down his family as it was such an item for comment. No Apaches anywhere. Mexicans yes, Irish yes but Indians no.

The guy lives in a fantasy world as does Barnaby McEwan, his cohort from Totnes in the UK. Now he is really nuts. Out of work dosser who sits on his computer all day, probably wearing his feathered headdress. He’ll be telling us next that McEwan is a Lakota name and Carroll is an Apache name.

They both need to get out more.

]]> By: Jer http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/#comment-1036 Jer Fri, 22 Feb 2008 03:40:34 +0000 http://my2point2cents.wordpress.com/2007/08/30/spirits-for-sale/#comment-1036 You all have no idea the extent of the problem. Arvol, is doing no harm to no one. He is our Chief, with no warriors..Only pretenders of the Club..A road to riches, is what I've seen in albuquerque, Kansas, South Dakota...Arvol is everyones scapegoat, when nothing goes right. We need more Lakota Warriors, to protect our Lakota ways...Hoka Hey! You all have no idea the extent of the problem. Arvol, is doing no harm to no one. He is our Chief, with no warriors..Only pretenders of the Club..A road to riches, is what I’ve seen in albuquerque, Kansas, South Dakota…Arvol is everyones scapegoat, when nothing goes right. We need more Lakota Warriors, to protect our Lakota ways…Hoka Hey!

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